Hundreds and Hundreds of Stars - Kimberly Senior and Sandra Delgado
A Love Letter To The City
Kimberly Senior & Sandra Delgado
CONVERSATIONS | Ed Tracy
According to director Kimberly Senior, Sandra Delgado’s new play “Hundreds and Hundreds of Stars”—produced by TimeLine Theatre and currently in previews at Lookingglass Theatre in Water Tower Water Works—“lives in an interstitial space that is neither here nor there and takes place in the memory of the main character, Clara” played by Delgado. The longtime friends and collaborators date back nearly three decades to the inception of Chicago’s Collaboraction Theatre Company when Senior, the founder and now company member emeritus worked with founding company member Delgado, who now serves on the Board.
Senior directed the Broadway production of the Pulitzer Prize- and Tony Award-nominated Disgraced by Ayad Akhtar. Among dozens of notable award-winning productions at theaters across Chicagoland and beyond, Senior has been lauded for her innate storytelling abilities in over 30 Collaboraction productions, a decade as an administrator and Resident Artist with Steppenwolf, her work with Goodman Theatre’s Artistic Collective and with TimeLine where she is an associate artist.
The captivating Delgado, a writer, producer, actor/singer/dancer is best known for her award-winning musical anthology “La Havana Madrid” based on true stories framed from within the famous 1960s Caribbean Latino nightclub. Her play, “Felons and Familias,” was part of Theatre on the Lake’s 2018 season and Goodman Theatre’s New Stages Festival under the new title, “Hundreds and Hundreds of Stars.” Moving into the 2025 TimeLine schedule last fall, the show is presented through a special arrangement at the Water Tower Water Works theater.
We all had a minute on a Zoom call to talk about the play during final preparations for the first preview performance last week. It was a wide-ranging discussion with two of Chicago’s top creative powerhouses who are telling the heartfelt story of a mother and daughter navigating our challenging immigration system. If it sounds like it might be of the moment, consider that Delgado’s play is rooted in Chicago and set in 2015 during a very different, but nonetheless compelling, inflection point in a national policy debate that has been smoldering for decades.
It is a “love letter to the city,” Delgado says, “that I hope is as satisfying for our audiences that love the city as much as Kimberly and I do.”
The following transcript has been edited for length and clarity.
Sandra Delgado: “My entry into the performing arts was through music, through singing, but also through dance. La Havana Madrid was definitely an expression of the singing part of me. And with Hundreds and Hundreds of Stars, I get to express more of my movement background. So, one of the elements that we're using to tell the story is, I wouldn't say dance, but it is a heightened movement.
In 2015, Obama was president and he enacted immigration policies. The original title of the play was called Felons and Familias because in the speech that he gave when he enacted these new immigration policies, one of the things he said was: ‘We're targeting felons, not families. We're targeting the drug dealers, not the mom who's working hard to take care of her kids.’
I heard this story on NPR about a man from Guyana who had come as a toddler to the United States with documentation. He had always been a legal permanent resident of the United States. And in his thirties, a couple of past drug convictions caught up with him and he was deported because of the new immigration policies. And that really struck me. As a mother, I was like, “In what world does it make sense to split this family apart?” At the time, his son was ten years old and now this man is going back to a place where he doesn't have anyone and his son is growing up without his father.
For some communities, Obama became known as the “deporter-in-chief,” but I would say, by and large, especially with our theater-going community, which tends to be a liberal community, they don't know that this has been happening way before Trump and even before Obama. We've always had problematic immigration policies. But I think in a way, setting (the play) in 2015 is just enough of a space for us to really look at where we were and where we are now, especially, as things have really escalated.”
Ed Tracy: And the laws have changed, decriminalizing marijuana and some of those kinds of things might not happen to American citizens. But as we are now, if there is anything there, it is coming to the surface.
SD: “That is really interesting to bring up because, of course, cannabis became legalized in 2020, but if you are not a citizen—and I am not saying an ‘undocumented person’—if you are a person who has a visa, who is a green card holder, you don't have those protections. I also wanted to examine this hazy gray area where a lot of what we see on the news is about undocumented people. It is binary, right? You are either a citizen or you are undocumented, as far as the stories that we are seeing surrounding immigration and deportation. But there is this whole other subset of people who are not citizens, but they are documented. They don't have protections either. So, this play is also examining that, because even today, for example, when (Governor) Pritzker a couple years ago pardoned all the people that were in prison for low level drug offenses, if you were a citizen, you got to leave prison. If you were a legal permanent resident, you were still there doing your time.”
ET: So how do you tell this story? How does art help you to tell this story so that it has the kind of universal reach that you are going for?
Kimberly Senior: “Well, you tell a story through people, right? This is a story about a family, right? So, there are three people on this Zoom, and we are three different people, and we all have different things that affect us. We have things that are in common, and we have different things that are not in common. And some of them are legal, some of them are historic, some of them are whatever, right? But that, like everything, affects different people. The true things that motivate us are the things that we love and the people that we love. That is how we make our decisions, based on our values, and based on what drives us are the people that we love.
This is really a story about a mother and a daughter and also this family and the people that surround them. There is an intergenerational story. It is a story of Clara. It is a story of her and her daughter. Her father is also in the play. I am very moved by that relationship in the play as well and the ties that bind us. And so, when these things are happening around us, how did that impact this family?
Sandra tells about hearing the story of this father from Guyana. It's not the law that is moving Sandra. It is the story about this father. This law is unfair, but no, what about this family? How does this law impact this family? I think where storytelling is so exciting, and so many of the stories that both Sandra and I have been interested in telling throughout our careers, is who are the people at the center of these stories? Because you can read history books and you can read news articles, but who are the actual people.
Like Sandra was pointing out, what we see on the news and what is presented to us are rarely the human faces. And, in fact, so often I think those things are being presented to us in a way where we are not connecting with the people so that we don't actually understand. And that is the role of the arts and how exciting and vital and how good it feels, especially in this moment, to be able to present a character like Clara who looks and behaves and who is just like any one of us walking around Chicago, who eats hot dogs and loves the 4th of July, and went to college and, goes to a mall and does all the things that we think are just American. Just like us, but yet the same rules don't apply because she wasn't born at Swedish Covenant Hospital but looks just the same and speaks with unaccented perfect English. I think it is a really interesting thing to put that face on it for our audiences.“
SD: “And, I think especially in this age where so much of the news that we are getting is in these little, viral soundbites, that viral video, where things are just reduced. It is so important to present a story of these fully, three-dimensional human beings. At its heart, this is a love story between a mother and a daughter. This is the story of a Chicago family. This is the story of an American family. And that is where art lives. You are getting to spend ninety minutes with these people and getting to know them as people. I have an IMDB credit called ‘crying Hispanic woman.’ It is not that soundbite of, or that viral video of, that crying Hispanic woman. You are getting to know these people as people. And as far as free speech, yeah, theater is free speech. We are holding on. And it is more important than ever.”
Currently in previews, the world premiere of the Timeline Theatre production of Sandra Delgado’s “Hundreds and Hundreds of Stars” directed by Kimberly Senior opens October 15 and runs through November 9, 2025 at the Lookingglass Theatre at Water Tower Water Works, 163 E. Pearson Street, Chicago.
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